Drinking Deeply

Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 7:23 AM

Thinking about courtship

In general, I lean much more on the conservative end of the "courtship/dating" debate. I believe that in an ideal situation, the father of the woman should have a lot of input and responsibility over their relationship.

The argument for that position generally flows from the OT - how in Numbers 30 the father has the authority to void vows made by their daughters.

The summary of that position is that, "sons leave, and daughters are given." A son leaving his home and setting up a new household as he marries someone else's daughter, who is given by her father.

It's interesting that this picture isn't entirely what the OT puts forth. Abraham was still the head of his household, even after his sons got married and had children. It was Abraham and his whole household throughout. What did Isaac do upon his marriage? He doesn't leave his family structure to start his own, but he brings his wife into his mother's tent (Gen 24:67).

Just a random thought.

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 9:22 AM

Give car rides, not cars

Random thought -

Many of my best conversations with people have come in a car with them. When you're with someone for even 10 minutes, it's surprising how easy it is to share what's on your mind and ask what's on theirs.

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Friday, October 23, 2009 at 5:44 AM

Becoming all to win all

one quote, and one thought that flows out of the sermon that the quote came from:

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Being in the world is not about being culturally relevant, but it's about being culturally engaged - Paul Poteat in a sermon at Bethlehem College and Seminary Chapel.
You can watch all the movies, read the newspapers, and listen to the music that the culture is taking in, but if you aren't involved in people's lives, if you aren't interacting with a goal to win people to Christ, then it's worthless.

Thought -

Oftentimes 1 Corinthians 9:22 is quoted by people who are more involved with the party scene, the movies, the "hip" scene, etc as a way to justify their involvement-
I have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some.
While I don't think that this verse is actually saying what they think it is saying, my major issue is that those people are not really applying the verse consistently. Why aren't they joining the chess club to reach out to the chess team? Why aren't they brushing up on their physics to reach the nerds and geeks of the world? Why aren't they trying to reach the socially awkward and physically unattractive (to the world)?

Why is it that to them, "becoming all things," means joining the "cool group" and the "accepted group" and the "interesting group"? And why is it not joining the outcast and the shunned? The people that everyone feels really awkward around?

1 Cor. 1:26-28

26 For consider your calling, brothers: not many of you were wise according to worldly standards, not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth. 27 But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise; God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong; 28 God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are.

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 8:27 AM

Give me Jesus

Before I started learning Greek, I thought learning Greek would really solve all my exegetical questions. That somehow, the people who knew Greek would have all my answers. I'm sure I pestered my pastors about answers about this or that many a time, expecting them to say, "well the Greek says this..." and that would settle it.

Little did I know that reading your Bible in Greek actually doesn't solve all those problems, but in fact, raises a whole host of new ones! It turns out that our English translations often clarify a lot more than the Greek!

But sometimes, there's something really really cool that you can see in the Greek text that you might miss in the English (it's there, just harder to see)

Last week I had the opportunity to translate through Ephesians 2, which is a source of incredible joy. You were dead in your trespasses and transgressions... but God!!! What a beautiful phrase!

But I digress - here's a passage that totally floored me.

Ephesians 2:
4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— 6 and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus
Specifically, verse 6 jumped out at me. "Raised us up with him and seated us with him" - and that instantly reminded me of the same idea that showed up in chapter 1:19-20
19 and what is the immeasurable greatness of his power toward us who believe, according to the working of his great might 20 that he worked in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places,
It turns out that in the Greek, those two verbs in verse 20, "raised" and "seated," are exactly the same verbs used in verse 6 of chapter 2, except with a prefix "syn" which, if your vocabulary is better than mine, you'd know was the prefix meaning "with" (ex: synchronic - syn + chronos - at the same time)

What does that mean? If we were to keep the verbs that Paul is using as one word, might say "God raised-with us and seated-with us, with Christ." It seems that Paul is directing us back to that earlier passage and saying, "do you remember that great power that raised Jesus Christ up from the dead? That power that seated him above all the thrones and powers and dominions and anything else? That same power is working in you to do exactly the same things, with Jesus."

That really blew me away. And I was reminded of the call of John Piper's book God is the Gospel. I don't want to be sinless, alive from the dead, seated in the heavenlies, but without Jesus! I don't want the power of God working in me for my good if He withholds the greatest good of all - being with Jesus. I don't need crowns in heaven if I don't get to worship Jesus with them.

Eph 3

14 For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, 15 from whom every family in heaven and on earth is named, 16 that according to the riches of his glory he may grant you to be strengthened with power through his Spirit in your inner being, 17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith—that you, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 may have strength to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, 19 and to know the love of Christ that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God

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